Due to "jills" rude suggestion to move my point somewhere else, I move it here--the central hub.
My point is that the creations contest isn't fair to everyone. Adults & college students are competing against little kids for the creations prize. Some of the adults and college students are professionals at animating & modelmaking. I don't think its fair for a 7 year old competing with a 28 year old! Who do you think will win?
I propose a creations contest by age groups, that way it will stay fair.
ex. 5-12, 13-17, 17-22, you get my point

i like the contest just the way it is

If you look back at the past winners on this site you can see that Aardman have been very fair in how they picked the winners of the creations competition.

I don't believe jills was rude as you put it, but it is rude filling up someone’s creation page with a little rant!

I suggest you lodge your point with Aardmans(Katie) and if the powers at be feel strong enough they may change it.

Have a nice weekend burritobabe

i agree with cavor i feel AArdman have been fair. oh yeah hi cavor

Hi plasjas

any more animations coming

I can;t seem to find the full animation of the giant man standing on the truck is their a full one or was that just a teaser

I agree. Jills wasn't rude at all.

I think you're underestimating the talent of some "little kids" burritobabe. I haven't seen a lot of creations by animation professionals. I'm sure you won't like it when I am finished with my creation because I'm as old as Jordan. The competition is just for fun but it's the best place to show off art that's related to W&G.

Anyway, on Jordan's page I was only bringing to your attention that say, if you spent time making something and then allowed others to see it by posting it online, you wouldn't like it if the space where the comments about the characteristics of your creation was supposed to be was filled with negative discussion. Thank you for moving the topic here.

I agree. But, I don't know your or Jordans age :S.

plasjas you said "I can;t seem to find the full animation of the giant man standing on the truck" are you on about this one
http://www.zippyvideos.com/8552745247287906/giant_2007edit//

well sorry for making a point! bur i do mind you,cavor, having a little "rant" with jills on this forum page. that is not topic related, so why don't you make a seperate thread to "rant" on.

cavor can you put it on you tube as i can't view it because i have a mac without windows on it please....

too much whinging and wailing over the contest. Id be happy just to enter to a competition with no prize, and no winners, just to share our work and complement each other...

ab, that wouldn't be a competition anyway. On the forum people post pictures to show each other

Plasjas if you look at the end of my (non-professional)
showreel on YouTube the film you want is nearer the end ok
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZRaW-ZGU4
Hope this helps

hey! thats not related, take it somewhere else or i'll bring my point onto ALL the forum apges

At least it was constructive.

thanks cavor yeah and thanks jills it is constructive as it is about animation

well can it be contructive somewhere else? this thread is not about animation so live with it.

Lol, are you still trying to persuade people?!

Lol, are you still not working on your video?!

can you not live with the fact no one agrees with you

Hey, whats your problem? Actually, I've done a lot of work on it. It takes hard work to have a composer score the whole film, to get voice-actors to voice the characters and other artists to help on the project you know.

At least I'm trying to achieve something and not put others down!

Burritobabe, I for one am receptive to your opinion but not the antagonistic manner in which you are putting it across.

Nofby, we all know pre-production is hard work even if some of it is done online. You've got really far in the last week or two already in my opinion. Well done.

I agree. It sounds to me like you have been working incredibly hard and been able to achieve (as always) fantastic things.

I think burritobabe is just here to create arguments and pick out tiny things that don't matter and turn them into huge things, for example, this thread is just to say that Jordan is too old... that is just ridiculous in my opinion. These threads are for animation tips and advice.

whats the problem with you guys? i was NOT trying to attack & harass peoeple or make them feel bad, i am trying to make the contest fair for everyone and no one will listen to my point. you were the ones who started to be mean to me! i am the victim here.

we did listen to your point and gave you feed back on it. But you were also it seems to us attcking nofby for being online when he is doing his production like you don't want him here.

I agree.

So Do I!!

I understand what your saying bb but i don't agree it is only my opinion

you guys never gave feedback. all you said about was "who cares? take it somewhere else!" i want a real opinion because the fact is that it's a problem and i want changed. and nofby started being mean to me first

???

Its not about what YOU want, this is a community and you shouldn't act so selfish!

okay you want to have proof of feedback:
"i like the contest just the way it is" that is feedback in the way of an opinion. "
"If you look back at the past winners on this site you can see that Aardman have been very fair in how they picked the winners of the creations competition." is making a point as well as opinion. Giving you feedback on what you said.
"ab, that wouldn't be a competition anyway. On the forum people post pictures to show each other" He wasn't attacking you but just making another point.

Ps i'm sorry you feel that we aren't listening to you.

One thing Aardmans don't encourage on this site is for its members to reveal there age (on occasion you can guess someone’s age) this is for the members safety.
If you changed the competition to how you stated in age categories it would be revealing too much information.

There have been some weird people posting on the forum in the past who have usual had there accounts quickly banned.

On top of this more prizes would have to be found

good point cavor. I hadn't really thought of that!

Yeah!

Look everyone, i wanted the contest to be fair for everyone and i thought my thoughts would matter on this site--but i was wrong. Everyone was saying "take it somewhere else" & "i like it the way it is so go away" (well, thats what it sounded like they meant) And i was not trying to find out peoples ages, if you think that is a problem then all of us could of worked together to find a way to make it not so revealing! and when i said i want feedback i want people actually thinking about what i said and then giving me real feedback like "good idea, but one problem is...." or "i like it but you could even add..." now do you see what i mean? and stop calling me names Nofby!

and also cavor, more prizes wouldn't have to be added because 1 prize could be given to each of the age groups like first, second, third. see, still fair

If anyone said they like the competition the way it is, it's because that's their real opinion, not because they didn't want to hear what you had to say, burritobabe- they shouldn't have to make something up just to agree with you. I thought you had a valid point, and for suggesting that we talk about it somewhere else i.e. the forums (I wouldn't consider individual creation pages a forum for general discussion; I never said take it somewhere else as in off the forum which you have claimed), you say I'm rude. Instead of suggesting that Jordan's creation be considered in a category for older participants, you just said hey you, you're too old. On top of that you insult Nofby by saying that he's not working on his project when in fact he has. Those are perhaps a few reasons why this discussion has been going the way it has. People have taken your opinion seriously and have the right to disagree. No one has ever said "who cares" like you quoted. As someone older I've thought about this topic already, but I think Aardman know what they are doing, and when you look at all the winners, it would appear that the creations were made by a broad age range (but who really knows, talent isn't necessarily based on age but the number of years one has been doing something plus natural talent). If it ever appeared that the oldest person entering always won, I would question the fairness or need for categories. But... I do think that would be taking it a little too seriously. Then again if Aardman ever changed the policy, or if several members of this site asked me or other older people not to enter the competition, I'd respect that. It's a subject worth talking about and it can be done without personal remarks or feeling attacked because someone disagrees. I think everyone would want the contest to be fair, it just seems that those that have replied already believe it is.

you wanted feedback burritobabe? everyone saying that they like the competition the way it is or that it's not about what they win that matters is all feedback. Not all feedback is positive. It appears that you are only looking for comments that agree with you. Well, sorry, independent thought is what makes us unique individuals.

You also seem to take have misinterpretted some of the comments and taken them as personal attacks. We were telling you that someone's creation page is not the place to be discussing the topic of age-based competitions. I don't think asking you to move the discussion to the forums is rude. But arguing your point on a creation page is. Also, you got fairly rude yourself. You should be a little more open to other opinions, comments and points of view.

One last bit about the age thing. There are some very talented 14/15 year olds on this website who, in my opinion, are much more talented than some older contestants. So you can't really say that an older person has an advantage over a younger one. As jills pointed out, natural talent does not increase with age.

Yes everyone has given their feedback also like jills said you were talking about this subject on somenes creation when their is a whole forum to discuss it tht is what she meant by take it somewhere else also i agree with squigly you can't expect everyone to feel the way you do

bla, bla, bla--just drop it...

i agree with you burritobabe its not fair that children are compeating with collage students

and if you look at some of the winners in the past aardman has picked some very young kids creations over adult proffesional ones